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How Much Do You Tip?

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I am a boy eysliu posted on Jan 17, 2012 @ 1:15pm:Thornhill ON
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How Much Do You Tip After a Meal?
You have already voted on this poll.
≤10% 279 14.63%
15% 524 27.48%
>15% 227 11.90%
I Don't Tip. 877 45.99%
Total: 1907 Votes 100.00%
 

Standard tip in Toronto restaurants now 20 per cent

A 20 per cent tip could be the new normal.

A small but growing number of Toronto restaurants are urging customers to tip more than the customary 15 per cent.

Diners at new Roncesvalles Ave. restaurants The Westerly and The Ace are prompted to tip 20 per cent on their bill when paying with credit and debit cards on handheld terminals.

“We feel we are providing great service. Waiters don’t get paid too much,” said Tom Earl, co-owner of The Westerly.

Machines are programmed to accept tips as a dollar amount or as a percentage of the bill after tax. Customers can change the suggested percentage.

The Ace changed its payment processing company to one with that would allow the restaurant to increase the tip prompt.

“Our first credit card machine would not allow us to change from a 15 per cent tip prompt. With 15 per cent as a suggested gratuity, it is no surprise that many of our patrons chose this option,” said Greg Boggs, co-owner of The Ace.

“It’s not a sneaky thing nor is it an expectation. I always tip at least 20 per cent when I go out.”

So does Aaron Boros, a diner who found service at The Ace in early January “outstanding” and tipped his customary 20 per cent. Still, “I thought it was a bit presumptuous,” Boros said about the new prompt.

Of course, tipping isn’t a science. While a 15 per cent tip is standard in Toronto, diners will adjust upwards or downwards depending on the level of attentiveness, cost of wine ordered and size of the check. Restaurateurs contacted by the Star say diners tip a higher percentage on low guest checks.

Other diners have praised the shift towards the Manhattan standard.

“About time,” tweeted Mike Christie of Toronto. “It’s customary in other big cities, like New York. Regardless, (the) customer needs options. Why not just get them to enter in the desired percentage?”

The upward shift isn’t confined to Roncesvalles. The wireless machines at Mildred’s Temple Kitchen in Liberty Village are programmed for 18 per cent.

At Milagro’s three locations, prompts are for 16, 20 and 30 per cent, the latter for larger parties.

“We felt (16 per cent) was a new minimum,” said Milagro co-owner Andres Anhalt.

“Twenty per cent is average for most tables. We believe it’s a direct result of being truly happy with the service.”

At The Westerly, recently reviewed for its knowledgeable service, tips are also averaging 20 per cent.

“I haven’t had a single complaint about the prompt,” said co-owner Earl.

In 2010, then-MPP David Caplan introduced a controversial bill to end the automatic gratuities, like the 18 per cent commonly levied on large restaurant tables. The bill has since died.

Last edited by eysliu on Jan 17, 2012 @ 1:24pm


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I am a boy proxy posted on Jan 20, 2012 @ 2:28am:GTA ON
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I always found it off-putting myself that customers are expected to tip at all. I mean someone's wages should be paid for by their employer. I do a great job of writing code some days and put in unpaid overtime to meet deadlines fairly often, but the customers don't pay/tip me for this nor do I expect them to; my employer should and does pay my salary.

If someone wants to argue about service based jobs, I worked as IT support to put myself through school. I can tell you I got paid minimum wage, and no one ever bothered to tip me for a job well done...this is sometimes after spending 3 hours cleaning tonnes of malware, or recovering valuable files after a castastrophic crash, or hacking drivers so PDAs would synch properly (back in the day when this didn't work very well) etc. How the hell did it become accepted that we have to tip people in the service industry?

It's galling that when you go for a 10 minute haircut that costs $22 nowadays for example, you're expected to help pay for someone's wage on top of the price you're charged. How about an employer that's making decent coin pass some of that onto their employees?

That said I tip 15% near universally, 20% if I found something truly extra-ordinary.

As an aside I once left a 1 cent tip at the absolute worst establishment I've ever been to, West 50 Pourhouse & Grille on Burnhamthorpe in Mississauga; waitress spent her time chatting up the bartender, and the half pint I got was skunky; after an hour of chatting with my friend while waiting in a 1/3 filled of capacity place, I tossed $12.45 on the table and we walked out. The staff barely even noticed, with the waitress just catching us as I was halfway out the door with a yell of "I thought you were going to order more!", maybe she sensed her top slipping away, I said, "That was an hour ago" while she gave a dirty look. I would have left 1 cent short if I had the change for it. Maybe they need to pass a bill that allows negative tipping. Another friend went there to check it out and they tried to charge him a $5 cover charge to be seated on a 3/4 empty seat night, he just laughed and left with his date.
I am a boy blacknight posted on Jul 19, 2012 @ 11:45am:oshawa ON
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I have also left the 1 cent tip... it is concidered an insult to the server. That being said, I felt the server insulted me with poor service. In general I pay 15% and up depending on the quality of service.( 10% and up for self serve and buffet... i mean... they do clear tables, but i DO serve myself)

I find that trying to "convince" the customer to tip more, or forcing them to pay in the first place is inapropriate. A tip... otherwise called a gratuity, is used to show apreciation(gratitude) for a job well done. And yet some see it as their god given right. I understand that some people depend on their tips to help above and beyond what they are paid, but if they want that tip, they should at least do their job.

I also would like to point out that I do tip at places other than resteraunts. I tip my hairdresser WHEN I get a good haircut, I tip my paperboy when he at least kinda gets the paper on the porch, I tip my mechanic(NOT 15% lol, would cost too much) and in response to proxy, yes, I do tip my computer tech. I tip anyone who does job for me, and i find myself grateful for the job they have done.

Long and short of it... you want a tip, do your job and do it well. The better you do the job the more you can expect people to be grateful.
EdC posted on Oct 5, 2012 @ 8:48am:Scarberia ON
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I often tip in the 20% range, sometimes a little more if I love the service, or my kid makes a truly spectacular mess (I clean up, but it's hard to get cream cheese off windows with a napkin).

I have a bit of a problem with the principle of percentages in general though, because a percentage of the price of food doesn't always reflect the quality of service. If I am eating a $5 breakfast special, and the server comes to check that I am happy, and gives me two coffee refills and three water refills, and chats and plays with my 13 month old daughter, they deserve a lot more than 15% of $5. I have had plenty of meals that cost $80 for two people where the server did no more work, or was no more pleasant than at $5 breakfast places, and yet even at 10% would be getting more of a tip than if I tipped 100% at the breakfast place.
I am a boy urban3 posted on Oct 6, 2012 @ 5:33pm:Toronto ON
23,418 posts
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haha.. I'm really surprised with the results of the thread.

a whopping 50% of the pollers voted that they don't tip!! What this mean about the visitors of our website? waiters and waitresses don't want us as customers!!
I am a boy urban3 posted on Oct 6, 2012 @ 5:39pm:Toronto ON
23,418 posts
82 feedbacks
btw, EdC, you got a point about the percentages...

a waiter/waitress at a breakfast shop gives GREAT SERVICE, gets 20% for a $5 meal = $1tip

a waiter/waitress at a fine dining place gives TERRIBLE SERVICE, gets 10% for a $80 meal =$8 tip

Makes me re-consider how much I tip at places that serve cheaper meals.. (tip them more like 30%+)...
and maybe I'll consider tipping as low as 5% at fancy places if the service is really bad... they're still getting enough...
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